[Padre-dev] Padre install failure

[Gabor Szabo]

Hi Offer,


This should already go to the padre-dev list
or probably better to the list of bugs and issues.

So I am adding the padre-dev list, Offer please answer there.


Before anything else, thanks for your feedback.
Most of the developers of Padre are using Linux so we probably don't
catch enough of the issue on Windows.
Which means if you start helping us on Windows that would be great.
Even if that is "only" constant bug reporting.


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Offer Kaye <offer.kaye at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Gabor Szabo <szabgab at gmail.com> wrote:
>> BTW you know that in Padre you can configure any syntax
>> highlighting you like to any arbitrary language, so if you
>> are editing files that does not have a syntax highlighter editor
>> or one that could give context-sensitive help, then you can
>> give that facility to anyone around you.
>>
>>
>> So it is not only for writing Perl code
>>
>> Gabor
>>
>
> That's cool.. but if you really want this editor to catch on, some
> basic stuff had better work first before you work on more advanced
> features such as syntax-highlighting for any language... or at least
> that's my opinion. I'm talking about stuff like:

I agree that the basic features should be fixed first but IMHO, in order
to attract some good Perl developers to help with Padre we need
some cool special features that they cannot get elsewhere. More
people will then mean faster bug finding and fixing the basic features.


>
> * find and find+replace not working. Actually it's strange, none of
> the find options from the main menu work, but I managed somehow to
> bring up some quick find which did work... but I'm not sure how I
> managed to bring it up. Apart from not working the find dialog is very
> annoying since after you close it the focus doesn't return to the main
> Padre window, you have to manually click inside it.

Probably you used F4.


>
> * lack of tooltips (or even better an icon+text version) for the
> little icons at the top

Some windows issue, afaik we already have a ticket for this

>
> * a help system with actual content, index, a search feature that works...

yes, yes we need that


> * need *much* smoother scroll with mouse-wheel - I opened Padre.pm and
> tried to scroll - it was painful to watch

a bit more explanation here what do you do and what is the problem ?

> * some indication of the current file's directory

how ? (btw statusbar has this info)


> I guess I shouldn't complain so much without trying to fix stuff ;) so
> I'll register to padre-dev and spend some time with the code, see what
> I can understand there.

Telling what features are still missing or broken on windows already helps
but of course going through the code and starting to help is even better.


>
> Don't get me wrong, playing a few minutes with Padre I already found
> some *very* neat features such as the ability to select a module name
> and ctrl-shift-o to open the .pm for it. But neat features won't help
> if more basic stuff doesn't work and find/replace is about as basic as
> they come...
>
> Also some of the features are not clear
> - why have both a "sub list" and "outline view" which already includes
> a method list and so could also I guess list non-method subs?

I think it is for historical reasons and we should get rid of the sub list.
Before that though we should make sure the outline does not eat all our CPU.
I wonder what do others say?

> - Or for example the Directory view which is just a flat list of
> current files under the current directory- why aren't directory names
> shown as expandable without having to double-click them?

AFAIK they work as expected on my machine ;-)

> - Why is the "Open Documentation" feature (a very nice one!) only
> available via right-click and *only* from the Outline pane?
>
> My only problem is, I don't have access to a decent Linux only to
> Windows, so I'll probably be missing some basic dev tools... :(

Actually that's an advantage for Padre.
We need people who will work on Windows and use Padre only and complain
hard about broken or missing features, or better yet fix them.

regards
   Gabor