[Padre-dev] trip to Haifa and IRC backlog

[Adam Kennedy]

I agree with all of that.

I think the reason WE are excited is not because of what Padre is now,
but we can see what it WILL be.

Adam K

2008/11/20 Kaare Rasmussen <kaare at jasonic.dk>:
> Hi
>
> Both Notepad++ and UltraEdit are very mature projects. NotePad++ is 5 years
> old and in release 5.1.1, UltraEdit is almost 15 years old, release 14.20.
>
> Padre is < 6 months old and the version is 0.17.
>
> Of course there is a difference, I'm just amazed how far Padre has come and
> that it is already useful. Of course there are a lot of features you'd want
> as a user. Let's see in another year, if Perl people can keep up the steam.
>
> The thing about both Notepad++ and UltraEdit is that they're Windows only.
> That's a showstopper right there for me.
>
> And no, I don't want to run my development environment through some kind of
> emulation layer.
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I was in Haifa today (some 140 km away) and gave a talk about
>> Padre to the local Perl Mongers, about 10-12 of them. It went well but as
>> usual it is a bit of a reality check.
>>
>> While we are (or let me say I am) enthusiastic about how well Padre does
>> it is still mostly just an editor which is way behind the capabilities of
>> Notepad++ or UltraEdit.
>>
>> I think the only real special thing I could point at is the "Match
>> missing brace"
>> and of course the capability to write plug-ins.
>>
>> For the former: We need more of those special powers.
>> For the latter: we need some good documentation and examples on what
>> one might want to write.
>>
>> On the way to Haifa I stopped at the "offices" of Crictor
>> a local start-up doing some tech oriented videos and I talked about
>> Padre and Parrot in two separate shots.
>> The screen it http://www.crictor.co.il/ and here
>> http://www.youtube.com/CrictorNews but AFAIK everything is in Hebrew
>> so not all of you will understand it.
>>
>>
>> Some answers to the chit-chat on IRC as logged here:
>> ( http://irclog.foorumbbs.com/padre_20081119.log.html )
>>
>>
>> 6:13 MY.pm -> My.pm sure it is ok with me
>>
>> 6:24 Padre::Document::Python - I hope we will be able to write it in Python
>>    (or rather let anyone write it in Python if he wants it) and run it
>> on Parrot.
>> In general though I think that would be Padre::Document::SomeDSLRunningOnParrot
>> that might subclass the Padre::Document::Parrot.
>>
>> 06:43 Find dialog - IMHO we will need both. The small Firefoxis
>> probably will not give you all
>> the options you want from the big dialog-boxis search. What do you think?
>>
>> The Plugin Manager is not THAT broken. You just have to restart Padre
>> to get the effect of Enable/Disable
>> or at least it was that way when I left in the morning :-)
>>
>> 12:17 my gut feeling is that we should go with POE, though as I said I
>> don't have experience with either threads
>> or POE. I assume that POE itself uses fork (or forkish threads on Windows).
>>
>> Gabor
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